$820.00
Stunning rare factory original French Bebe dustle couture dress attribute by Maison Jumeau circa 1878th.
A special beautiful original antique French Bebe bustle dress attribute by Maison Jumeau , all hand sewn for a size 8 or 9 Bebe ( 18" to 20" / 47cm to 49 cm )
A stunning factory original dress of ecru silk with touch of blue , has rounded neckline and small inset long sleeves. Little bag decoration at each front side and lovely bustle back !!
Front closure with...
$985.00
17" ( 43 cm ) cabinet size pretty bisque girl has very good quality of pale bisque socket head with beautiful large deep blue glass sleep eyes with dark eyeliner and bottom painted lashes.
Has modeled brush-stroked and feathered brows and open mouth with outlined lips and row of porcelain teeth , pierced ears and wonderful original brunette long wig.
Head mark at back with ; DEP and red Tete Jumeau stamp.
Made for the French market by Maison Jumeau ... circa ...
$5,980.00
Wonderful French bisque poupee in all original condition about 21" ( 54 cm ) , has unusual facial expression and wearing most beautiful antique silk costume with cape and bonnet .
Unusual facial expression of pale pressed bisque swivel head on bisque shoulder plate with wonderful blue enamel inset glass eyes with thick dark eyeliner and fine painted lashes. Rare modeled upper eye lid and lightly feathered brows . Closed mouth with fine accented pale lips. Inside the head pierced e...
$990.00
For your doll room scene or doll house we can offer this unusual and elegantly posed Mademoiselle with pale complexion bisque shoulder head light slightly turned , has superb painted facial features included a beauty point .
She has her original blonde mohair wig...
$2,400.00
Lovely all original 12" ( 31 cm ) " Uncle SAM " bisque portrait doll for the US market by German factory ~ Cuno and Otto Dressel ~ of the series of American historical heroes .... Germany circa 1890th.
Very distinctively sculpted Character bisque socket head of best quality of bisque and painting , has nicely inset brown glass eyes and thick modeled brush stroked grey brows. His funny face has deep incised age lines with red outlines , a very pronounced nose and jutting chin...
$4,750.00
" The Jewish child " called French Paris Bebe with superb and rare facial character features similar of the 200 series by Maison Jumeau , has deep modeling of lovely rare facial complexion with best quality of pressed bisque and painting , original body and lovely clothing !!
The called Jewish child by Maison Jumeau has typical expression with original brown enamel inset eyes and eagle nose on pressed bisque socket head with plump cheeks ! Has dark eyeliner and fine painted lashe...
$3,550.00
A lovely girl which will catch your heart with here hint of smile and lovely expression..... 18"( 46 cm ) it is so childlike and with best quality of pale bisque and painted socket head .
She is one of the cutes cabinet size bisque girl by J. Steiner ~ Figure A ~ with rare facial childlike expression , original body and wearing most beautiful antique dress !!
Has dreamy blue glass paperweight eyes with leaver mechanism and fine painted lashes lashes . Feathered brow...
$12,200.00
Outstanding model of Circle / Dot market BruÂīs Bebe from his " Golden Age " has small size 4 .....16" ( 40 cm ) enhances the very cute and stunning childlike sculpting with implied rare row of teeth , has lovely deep modeling , sweet dimpled chin and modeling of brows , very beautiful perfect bisque hands and original Bru kid body .
A really beauty which has lovely bisque from best pale quality like her painting , has pale pressed bisque swivel head on original kid-edged bisque s...
$4,980.00
Beautiful and sweet model Figure " C " Jules Steiner Bebe cabinet size 18 " ( 46 cm ) with superb quality of pale pressed bisque and painting , original signed Steiner eyes with wire - lever sleep mechanism , original body and superb antique clothing !!
Lovely pale pressed bisque socket head with very sweet and childlike expression of best quality of bisque and painting , has rounded facial shape and wonderful large blue original Steiner glass eyes with lever sleep mechani...
$3,490.00
From " Au Paradis des Enfants " Paris doll boutique we could offer this beautiful Huret era French poupee with imposing presence by Blampoix from 1860/ 65th.in her lovely enfantine presence !!
A early French Fashion doll with wonderful fine pale quality of bisque and painting , has very flat un-pierced ears , luxury original sturdy kid fashion body with perfect bisque arms and hands and wearing so nice enfantine pique costume !!!
16,5" ( 43 cm ) ... beautiful early doll...
Lovely one of a kind French Bebe Polichinell costume of fine cotton in pale pink , blue and yellow fully ornate with some lose parts and lotÂīs of little bells.
From 19th century fine cotton costume included a pretty jacket with half length of arms , has ecru ruffled collar and some little lose color full parts with bells at the rounded neckline. Has front closure with hooks and loos and is inside fine lined with ecru cotton.
The skirt is box pleated all around ornate with ...
Pretty one of a kind three piece dress for a French or German BeBe circa 24" / 25" ( 62 - 64 cm ).... wonderful for Jumeau - Bru - Steiner - Gaultier ....or other of your favorite dollÂīs.
Pretty outfit from ecru silk with tiny corn flowers patter , lovely blue sil trim and French lace .
Wonderful three piece costume has long side bustle jacket with small inset sleeves and pleated blue silk row around edged. Front has closure of button and hand made button holes ornate with ...
$9,890.00
Rare French 19" ( 49 cm ) poupee by Pierre-Francois Jumeau circa 1865 , a portrait like model which was likely created for Paris exhibition for international exposition !
A very rare model with special luxury and elegant appearance , superb gentle facial expression with superb quality of sculpting ... bisque quality and painting .
Wonderful pale bisque swivel portrait head on kid-edged bisque shoulder plate . Has perfectly oval shaped oval shaped face with beautiful small b...
Wonderful and rare to find all original antique French high brim silk bonnet in Jumeau red color from France circa 1878 ... in generally excellent condition to age !!
A most beautiful high brim bonnet of burgundy silk velvet and Jumeau red silk satin .... has rounded head and lovely row of ruffled silk satin around brim edged.
Ornate with three metal ornaments and pretty large silk bows , has ribbon and bow closure under the doll chin.
Inside stiffened lined bri...
Lovely most hand sewn one of a kind French silk costume with matching bonnet , would fit well for French or German doll about around 11 " ( 28 cm )
Lovely little dress of luxury pink silk velvet and ecru silk satin full of elegant details , has square neckline and 5 row of fine hand ruffled silk at front. French lace collar and decoration.Each front side of pale pink silk velvet matching to the back . 3/4 long inset sleeves with lace wrist and lovely velvet sash around the waist ...
$980.00
Superb one of a kind three piece ensemble suitable a French or German doll about around 23"/24" ( 59-62 cm ) ... perhaps for a Bebe Jumeau like 10 or 11 !
All complete hand sewn of fine striped silk in soft rose color which has luxurious impression . The beautiful ensemble comprise a coat dress with full length box pleated below the fitted yoke that is hidden by a nicely shaped collar which ornate a lovely silk row and silk cord loop trim.
The coat dress has very fu...
$790.00
For an size 5 French Poupee a most beautiful all hand sewn 1870th. century antique one piece poupee afternoon gown of light brown ornate with blue silk fringe and sash decoration , would fit well for Fashion doll around 20 " ( 50 cm ).
A wonderful gown has fitted waist with wide neckline ornate with blue silk fringe , has small inset long sleeves and beautiful box pleated skirt.
All hand sewn of beautiful light brown striped silk full ornate with woven brown leaves .
H...
$1,450.00
Simply elegant three piece antique silk poupee bustle gown all hand sewn of gorgeous light rose silk taffeta with ecru netting collar from France around 1870th.
A gorgeous jacket with matching bustle skirt and ecru silk netting collar , has all complete near mint condition to age !!
Suitable for an size 4 fashion doll included this stunning rose outfit a jacket with long sleeves and rounded neckline , has back closure with his original hooks and hand made loops. The jacket is...
From Paris luxury dolls boutique " Magasin des Enfants " a rare large size miniature Doll room in his presentation wooden box indicate by her original embossed Etrennes trade card from this exclusive store in Paris at 1900 !!
Called " Chambre a Coucher " a wonderful all original 24" x 13" x 12 " ( 62 x 34 x 31 cm ) wooden box with red paper cover opens a three side room with original designed walls paper on the walls and floor.
Original interior of two corner windows wit...
Rare presentation of superb petite bisque lady sisters attributed by Simon & Halbig for French market circa 1885 . Generally excellent preserved in her fancy box from Luxury Doll boutique " Au Paradis Des Enfants " !
Two beautiful little bisque lady dolls in fine muslin costumes with extra matching apron and lovely accessories , both in generally excellent condition !
A superb blue eyed 9" ( 23 cm ) bisque lady , has pale swivel head on bisque shoulder plate , elongat...
Most beautiful original antique French summer Poupee gown of delicate white muslin with fine ruffled row and lace decoration at one piece fitted costume . Hand sewn and pretty ornate with fine details and pale pink silk ribbon decoration , has long sleeves with lace edged and lovely light pink under dress .
A wonderful gown from around 1875 with long sleeves and whide neckline to show your dolls breast plate. Has lace ornate front and at back hand made closure of button and buttonho...
$395.00
The rare antique French Bebe bonnet would fit for around 9" to 10" ( 23-25 cm ) dolls head circumference and has generally excellent condition to age.
This delicate bonnet is rigidly shaped from wire framework hidden inside the top and at sides and brim.
T lovely bonnet cap is of light rose silk fulled with ruched decoration rows.The brim is ornate with matching silk pleated row , has small lace edged . Stiffening and pale rose silk with rest of netting line the interior of b...
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Most beautiful rare all original 4 " ( 11 cm ) early all wooden Grodnertal Doll in her original condition from around 1830th. century , wearing wonderful clothing and her original earrings !
Rare and so nice all wood doll with oval shaped head . Having one piece head and torso with original nice painting of facial features with beautifully blushed cheeks . Black hair with carved braids at each side and a nice node at back and so rare with her original earrings !! Has her lovely w...
$1,950.00
From an old French collection we can offer a most beautiful near mint condition Polichinelle with his accessory in presentation from 19th. century
A Polichinelle was very popularity in France until after the end of 19th. century and it was the most used symbol on publicity poster or Department Store and luxury Doll Store catalogs in Paris !! They was to find in different sizes and styles but always wearing very lavish and special ....... On popular and funny guy for your collecti...
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From the same time era of Huret ...... an early fashion doll from circa 1858 / 60 with very gentle expression of round facial features , has luxury body with exquisitely sculpted bisque hands , very beautiful face whose pale bisque is dramatized by her brilliant eyes . Has lovely skin wig and very beautiful wearing enfantin costume with crinoline !!!!
Pretty 18" ( 46 cm ) poupee comes from the same time era like an Huret poupee and is an rare found with her lovely facial expressio...
Very rare 18" ( 46 cm ) French Poupee with most beautiful and unusual complexion and expression from circa 1867th. likely created for the Paris international exposition about this time special for wealthy international travelers from India or Persia ...
Unusual doll with wonderful golden amber complexion of pressed bisque swivel head and kid edged bisque shoulder plate. Has deep brown glass enamel inset eyes with dark eyeliner and dark curly lashes. Has widely arched one piece br...
From private familie in France a stunning 22" ( 57 cm ) French Paris Bebe with superb and rare facial character features similar of the 200 series by Maison Jumeau , has deep modeling of lovely rare facial complexion with best best quality of pressed bisque and painting , original body and clothing .... all preserved in her presentation box.
Pressed bisque socket head with plump cheeks and gorgeous large blue glass enamel inset eyes , dark eyeliner and fine painted lashes . Brush-...
21" ( 54 cm ) French Paris Bebe with superb and rare facial character features similar of the 200 series by Maison Jumeau , has deep modeling of lovely rare facial complexion with best best quality of pressed bisque and painting , original body and superb original wig , wearing lovely clothing !
Perfect pressed bisque socket head with plump cheeks and gorgeous large blue glass enamel inset eyes , dark eyeliner and fine painted lashes . Brush-stroked brows with feathered details a...
$450.00
Very beautiful all original antique silk bonnet for French Bebe or German doll . Has all original condition included his hat box from France at 19th. century !!
The stiffened gauze bonnet has rounded head form designed at 1880 in France will fit perfectely to the doll head.
Constructed of ecru silk with lovely ruffled and pleats , silk bow decoration and lovely flowers bouquet as finally touch at the top .
Head inside ornate with ruffled silk and row of fine lace , all ori...
An beautiful early period Lorgnette are always an important accessory in a poupee wardrobe and at this time itÂīs hard to find a beautiful one from the Napoleon III period or Huret era around 1860...
We could offer you a very elaborate Lorgnette of gilt base included fine ornaments . Has hinged gold framed real glass spectacles which fold and hidden inside the handle .
Contained in original boutique box !!
A wonderful early luxury accessorie for your Poupee eveni...
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If you want ever bring home a special beautiful and rare French Bebe maybe we have the right one for you here :))
After more as 30 years we never could found a extremely rare bisque Bebe like this ...a very unusual bisque Bebe by Denamur with very rare bisque cut by " Kubelka" patent to allow inset pate of different coiffure and with normally unbreakable paper-mache back at head.
Most beautiful and absolute rare 20" ( 51 cm) French Bebe by Etienne Denamur ....... has be...
This lovely set of three outfits for small Bebe about size 2 or 3 included three dresses each with bonnet and small accessories !
All together preserved in a Paris department store box by " Printems " ... a luxury store in the 19th. century !
Included a very nice little dark blue silk dress with ecru pattern . The upper part included the long sleeves are very nice made of French lace , included a nice bow and a little doll watch
a nice blue velvet bonnet with red ...
$190.00
Rare to find all original antique Poupee hanky set from France circa 1860 for one of your early Fashion dolls like Huret , Rohmer or other !
A set of two hanky ... one of white cotton with red embroidered N and the second for the evening gown of silk netting with lace deged.
2,5" x 2,5" ( 7 x 7 cm ) cotton hanky and the other about 2,5" ( 7 cm ) diameter. Both preserved in his hanky box with litho picture decoration . Box are 3" x 2" ( 8 x 5 cm )
Lovely tiny Fash...
$399.00
A rare three piece set of lovely Fashion doll accessory in round store box of 3,5" ( 9 cm ) diameter , a lovely and rare to find French fine belt with inset watch , a lovely doll purse with handles and an matching tiny clutch purse with flap front .
Special the belt with inset watch is very nice .... has shaped front and narrow back with adjustable extenders and buckle.
A very nice and rare to find set from 19th century preserved in store box.
Watch belt 5" ( 13 cm ) ...
A special rare found of early leather shoes for Huret around 1862/65 by Thierry ... a doll shoe maker how works also special for Huret ....
2 1/4" - 6 cm brown leather flat-shoes with squer-cut front and ankle ties which has original buttons ( one are missing ) and nice silk rosette . The lovely shoes are banded with with brown silk around edging , both have typical Huret kid-leather soles inside mark with " T " for Thierry ....
Special are to find shoes for your Huret ...
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Very rare found of early heeled leather shoes from around 1862/65 by Thierry ... a doll shoe maker how works special for Huret but also for other luxury doll shops in Paris at this time !
Extremely rare small size 2 all original heeled poupee shoes of fine lambskin , each are banded with brown silk around edging and ornate with nice silk rosette at shoe tip.
Original heel and have typical kid-leather soles inside mark with " T " for Thierry .
Perfect for an earl...
Rare to find 11,5" ( 29 cm ) Premier bisque Bebe attributed by Mascotte . It is certain that this premier dolls was manufactured by Maison Jumeau for May Freres the publisher of the Mascotte Bebe.
Gentle facial expression bisque Bebe Mascotte has pale creamy bisque and lovely painting with delicate complexion of an early French Bebe with rare shy expression , original body and nicely costume !
She has best quality of pale bisque socket head with full cheeks and beautiful...
$520.00
Very cute included tail 4,5" ( 12 cm ) little salon dog for your small doll display , fashion doll or doll house !!b>
A sweet little Borzoi which is rare to find in this small size , of paper mache with lavish white fur cover . Has shaved face and lower legs , original black velvet ears and tiny amber glass eyes.
He is a standing model with close mouth .
France circa 1885 ...
Wonderful and in generally excellent condition , a very cute friend for your dolls ......
$890.00
Rare all original antique small brown silk roof parasol for French Poupee like Huret , Rohmer , Blampoix or other of your favorite fashion dolls in your collection !!
Rare to find from France circa 1865 / 70 has generally excellent condition.
Lovely small size bone handled parasol about 8" ( 18 cm ) , has elegand carved hand-clasp ... all original
Wonderful original light brown silk cover with lovely row of fine French lace around edged and top . Well possible to...
Rare to find large size 16 French Bebe shoes by Maison Jumeau of fine pale rose silk .
Most beautiful and rare to find in this large size ... all original silk shoes by Jumeau for size 16 Bebe , has generally good condition to age from around 1888th.
Of fine pale rose silk , has silk straps and embroidered around edged. Lovely silk bow at front and original light brown leather sole mark by Maison Jumeau with bee Depose and size 16 ...
Wonderful and rare to f...
$790.00
$7,850.00
Small size Bebe with finest quality of pressed bisque socked head of pale quality with beautiful almond shaped blue glass enamel inset eyes which has rich spiral threading , dark eyeliner and fine painted...
Rare all original beautiful French bisque musical automaton from the " Fabrique de Jouets Artistiques " by " Leopold Lambert " called " Bebe Nid " .... little girl with nest " from France around 1885th. !!
24" ( 62 cm ) in total beautiful all original condition automaton Bebe standing upon a velvet covered base which is a pretty bisque head doll with best quality of pale expression and fine painting , has brown glass paperweight inset eyes with lushly painted lashes . Has brush-...
$1,380.00
Wonderful and special rare to find all original preserved antique silk outfit for French Bebe or German doll about size 9 or 10 / 19" to 20" ( 48 - 50 cm ).... stunning silk gown with straw bonnet , set of under garment , stocking and leather shoes.
A rare silk outfit from France around 1880th. , of fine and elegant gown of striped silk and ecru silk satin . All hand sewn with ruffled front and pleated skirt. Is in good condition to age , to note a little strain and silk meltin...
$345.00
Rare found of original small round burgundy jewelry box original filled with ecru color pearl necklace with matching color earrings from around 1870/75th.
The small necklace has two size pearls all around with original closure and a nice middle drop pearl with tiny gild metal decoration.... has total length from 5" ( 13 cm )
Included as well a lovely pair of ecru color flower earrings with fine metal pin ...
Very nice original set for your fashion doll or for her tru...
$950.00
Rare pair of open heeled leather slippers for an early paper-mache or wood doll from 18th. century , all hand made of paper-mache covered with fine kid-skin ornate with original silk row !
Wonderful red and ecru kid-skin leather slippers , has open heeled back and each with original silk ruffled row over front top .
Hand sewn with very fine details , each has covered paper-mache base and original light brown leather sole .
Has total length about 3" ( 8 cm ) and wid...
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Rare first period bisque Bebe by Jules Steiner circa 1875 ... with most beautiful light blue eyes , best quality of pale bisque and painting , rare double row of porcelain teeth in her smiling expression open mouth , has unusual pate cut . Original body and in all complete generally excellent condition with original clothing !
Special lovely early cabinet size 15" ( 39 cm ) Steiner Bebe has pale pressed bisque rounded socket head ... called " Moon Face " with pretty light blue sp...
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Special rare found of superb mode enfantine blouse by " Mlle. Bereux " for Huret from around 1855 / 60 !
Wonderful enfantine blouse of fine white cotton ornate by delicately festooned parts of hand embroidered which are recognized by Miss Bereux special for Huret .
The blouse has wonderful tiny details of embroidery in white and red at front , collar and cuffs. Has back closure with original tiny button ....
Fit perfect for your size 4 early poupee and special f...
$890.00
Very rare found of French Poupee miniature notebook by " Maison Giroux " from 1864th. century in good condition to age for Huret , Rohmer or other early doll .... !
Of light brown leather with original strap , the under strap are gone in the years . Containing an lovely and very rare to find small notebook and diary .
Mark by Maison Giroux 1864 ....
There are some pages described and a few pages are missing over the years but all around is this rare book in generally good ...
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Of 17" x 11" ( 44 x 29 cm) luxury presence French Boudoir toilette table for Poupee or small Bebe . A perfect furniture for your dolls salon.
Feminine toilette table covered with fine light blue cotton with tiny print of rose buds , edged ornate with silk cording and accented with embroidered lace . Middle framed mirror with bow decoration as final upper accents . Fine lace canopy at back ...
A lower part fabric covered matching to the table top .
Included is a p...
A special rare found by Maison Huret from circa 1865 .... original presentation box with hanky and original Huret stamp mark !!
3" x 2" x 1" ( 7,5cm x 5,5cm x 2,5 cm ) rare cardboard presentation box covered with typical Huret green paper and stamp at inside the lid in fade green by " Maison Huret No.22 Boulevart Montmartre PARIS " !!
The small presentation boxes contained accessories by Huret , included this rare box an small handkerchiefs about 3,5 " x 3,5" .
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Produced only over two or three years rare all original bisque Bebe by Maison Emile Jumeau ... France circa 1885 !! A Jumeau model from the slow transition between pressed and poured bisque at this times.
An outstanding beauty with finest sculpting and rare face expression , best quality of cream bisque and dramatic painting , perfectly preserved all original condition included her fantastic couture outfit by Maison Jumeau and her store box !
Gorgeous 22" ( 56 cm ) dol...
Very beautiful rare to find all original Huret era French kneeling wooden prayer chair called " Prie - Dieu " from 1860th. suitable sized for display with a size 4 Poupee or smaller Bebe about around 14" to 17" .
The Prie - Dieu has original black finish and hand crafted wooden cross inside the back. Original gold painting details and pretty original blue velvet upholstery on seat and hand rest .
Typical short wooden legs , the front ones are ornate with gold decoration a...
$380.00
Extremely rare to find early French Poupee woven net pouch bag ... suitable for a size 4 poupee from France Huret era 1865 ...
Very nice little bag in his store box , 3 " included the handle . All hand made of woven indigo-blue and cream silk threads.
The rare oval shaped bag is wonderful trimmed with tiny silver beads up to the handle ...
Decorative and rare to find early fashion doll bag or purse in near mint condition to age , IÂīm sure your favorite fashio...
Excellent condition Huret size and era dark brown leather ankle boots from France around 1860 th.
Would fit nicely for your early Poupee like Rohmer , Barrois , Huret and other lovely doll about size 4 about 16" / 17" ( 43 - 44 cm )
Made of brown leather with original elastic sides . Has original wooden heels and pale brown leather soles .
Leather edged covered with brown silk and ornate with her original silk tassel.
Rare and great condition all original heeled...
Very unusual and rare 1860th. Huret era party mask for fashion dolls about size 3 or 4 poupee !!
A so nice pressed shape party mask of silver silk fabric with silver fringe trim , has eye cut and suggested nose shape . With two small silver cord ribbons you can hold the mask on the doll head ...
Inside covered with gray silk and it has excellent condition to age !!
A very rare and unusual 1,5" mask for your favorite poupee ...
Thank you for your inte...
$980.00
Most beautiful and rare to find Huret era 1860th. miniature Mahagany two-top table for your doll display scene in your collection !
So lovely stylized little furniture in very rare doll size for a little Bebe or Poupee like Huret , Rohmer , Barrois or other beautiful doll.
Of beautifully mahogany with natural finish , has three cabriolet legs and a center pedestal . To displaying two different sizes round beveled-edge shelves .
From France around 1860th.
Has e...
Rare to find French bisque Teen Pouppe by Maison Jumeau in all perfect and wonderful condition with rare luxury body style from circa 1865 / 68....wearing all original !
Stunning 13,5" ( 35 cm ) French Teen bisque poupee has facial older child expression of pale bisque swivel head on bisque shoulder plate . Has pretty blue glass enamel inset eyes with fines painting of lashes and feathered brows . Closed mouth with fine two color outlined lips with hint of smile between her very f...
$750.00
A very nice and rare to find miniature sewing necessaire in lovely original small shell lid box for French poupee .
From around 1870 oval shaped miniature lid shell box on shell feet with pretty gild metal edged decoration included a shutter , opens to reveal a beautifully tiny made silver sewing tools . Included gold plated bird shaped scissors , thimble and other ..... all original hold on red velvet base with silk cord decoration.
Circa 3" x 2" ( 8 x 5 cm ) wi...
$7,980.00
Breathtaking French bisque Poupee from luxury Paris Doll Boutique " Au Paradis des Enfant "..... circa 1868 / 70..... has very pretty quality of bisque and painting on unusual facial smiling expression accented by gorgeous blue eyes and dramatic painting of eyeliner and lashes.
18 " ( 44 cm ) size 4 poupee with best quality of bisque swivel head on kid-lined bisque shoulder plate , original poupee kid body with shop mark , possible original gorgeous silk costume with bonnet and or...